learning01
02-01 07:21 PM
Will look into its context and reference. When it was introdued, whether was it introduced, voted etc.
Try the above link by 485Mbe4001. I can get to it.
Try the above link by 485Mbe4001. I can get to it.
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GC_sufferer
07-11 07:59 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
No ...it isn't...
No ...it isn't...
Goodintentions
03-01 06:23 PM
I am all for it, Sir! Excellent idea! Thank you!
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NolaIndian32
04-15 09:10 PM
The first T Shirt order has also been placed, last week, I believe. I should be receiving this initial order by mail shortly and then I can mail out the T Shirts to those who have signed up thus far.
Guys, T Shirts are in - yay!!!:)
Guys, T Shirts are in - yay!!!:)
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sanan
05-16 01:20 PM
There is no time limit. You can file it as long as your PD makes the cut off time
Does anyone know about this:
Once Priority date beconmes current, whithin how many days should I-485 petition be filed?
Does anyone know about this:
Once Priority date beconmes current, whithin how many days should I-485 petition be filed?
camarasa
07-11 05:36 PM
This is the only escape route they have.
Nothing else would calm down all potential lawsuits.
What is? Working on the July submitted apps ahead of the ones already in the queue?
Nothing else would calm down all potential lawsuits.
What is? Working on the July submitted apps ahead of the ones already in the queue?
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pappu
01-02 12:15 AM
total Members till now 7,921.
we did not meet the target of 10 K members by dec 31.
lets keep working on it.
we did not meet the target of 10 K members by dec 31.
lets keep working on it.
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chintu25
01-12 08:23 PM
Answers in GREEN
Thanks for the post, i am interested too, i am not a pattern day trader but a normal trader as of now.
Could you please post how this has affected your tax return filings, do we need to do something extra while filing tax returns if one is a pattern day trader?
Whatever you earn from Trading is taxable as your earned income. On the flip side if you ve made losses there is a provision for some tax deduction as well . Contact a good Tax consultant
I believe that I will pay tax only if I earn and I will definately earn more than I pay tax
Also it suggest that there should be minimum equity balance of 25K, are they referring to the value of stocks...
Yes for day trading you need 25k but you dont need to have 25 k . For starters I trade something where I buy EOB today and sell off SOB(START) of business tommorow
I recommed reading day trading concept at wiki I will post some rules as well as ways to trade like PDT with a smaller account
Yes as you said i too was thinking about it, there is only so much one can earn because in my situation i cannot shift employer, nor does the current one pay me enough or is willing too, so we all must look at alternate sources of income (but take our own risk and decision)....
Welcome aboard friend same situation here
I started trading with sharebuilder recently.... and they did give me a 50$ coupon to start with...
Thats great ...I know a few trading sites offering very cheap trading fees
As pappu said, yes we need to share such info with our fellow folks so that everyone gets benefitted and if we make money we can contribute atleast a small part of it to IV.... (win-win for all).
There is so much information to share....
Thanks for the post, i am interested too, i am not a pattern day trader but a normal trader as of now.
Could you please post how this has affected your tax return filings, do we need to do something extra while filing tax returns if one is a pattern day trader?
Whatever you earn from Trading is taxable as your earned income. On the flip side if you ve made losses there is a provision for some tax deduction as well . Contact a good Tax consultant
I believe that I will pay tax only if I earn and I will definately earn more than I pay tax
Also it suggest that there should be minimum equity balance of 25K, are they referring to the value of stocks...
Yes for day trading you need 25k but you dont need to have 25 k . For starters I trade something where I buy EOB today and sell off SOB(START) of business tommorow
I recommed reading day trading concept at wiki I will post some rules as well as ways to trade like PDT with a smaller account
Yes as you said i too was thinking about it, there is only so much one can earn because in my situation i cannot shift employer, nor does the current one pay me enough or is willing too, so we all must look at alternate sources of income (but take our own risk and decision)....
Welcome aboard friend same situation here
I started trading with sharebuilder recently.... and they did give me a 50$ coupon to start with...
Thats great ...I know a few trading sites offering very cheap trading fees
As pappu said, yes we need to share such info with our fellow folks so that everyone gets benefitted and if we make money we can contribute atleast a small part of it to IV.... (win-win for all).
There is so much information to share....
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sanju
04-09 10:33 PM
I think current mad rush is because of following reasons.
1) Atlease 35K new H1s filed because of H4-H1 conversions. This is because of retrogression and H4s waited longtime to work and so they are desparate to work. We can eliminate this if we have I-485 filing provision without visa number availability provision of STRIVE act. These people deserve it until there no solutuon to Retrogression.
2) 70K visas are filed by Offshoring/Outsouring firms firms. This is where the actual problem is. They won't send all of them whom they file. They will unnecessarily waste all these H1s after getting approvals. I know so many visas are wasted by Satyem, Wipro, TCS, Infosys, Accenture and all other offershoring/outsourcing firms every year.
3) 15K-20K by US educated students. These are deserved to file.
4) 10K - New H1s for real projects needed by clients. These are also deserve to file for H1.
So, here the problem is Offshoring/Outsourcing firms who are abusing the law by filing and not sending all of them. I can definitely say 85% visas filed by these firms every year are wasted and they won't send all these employees whom they file. They are using this H1 as seat reservation in a bus/train. They only send very few and waste so many visas every year. In all these firms, i know so many employees are having H1 stamped and waiting to come here. But those companies selects very few and send them here. If at all we need any reform in H1B, then it is here by not allowing H1s from these Offshoring/Outsourcing firms. Then everybody will be happy. These firms can use only L1 for their company needs so that H1 won't be abused.
Also, first point, we can solve by passing the curent version of STRIVE.
So, we need to oppose this new H1B reform and make to sure that Congress passes STRIVE act provisions.
Any thoughts from my friends?
Let me guess. You have a friend or a relative in the H1 que. And this H1 applicant is either getting education in US or is not going to be an employee of a consulting firm.
Second guess: You have a US degree or you are not working for a conslting firm.
Why do you think the spouses on H4 do no deserve H1? If they want to work, why do you think that they should not compete in the job market?
BTW, the companies you are cursing, TCS, Wipro, Satyam etc., it is possible that soon the H1s applied by these companies will be exempt from numercial limit. Yes, you heard me right. Here is a bill that would make companies providing scholarships to undergrad and grad programs to be exempt from H1 numerical count. This is not a joke, read for yourself: :p
1) Atlease 35K new H1s filed because of H4-H1 conversions. This is because of retrogression and H4s waited longtime to work and so they are desparate to work. We can eliminate this if we have I-485 filing provision without visa number availability provision of STRIVE act. These people deserve it until there no solutuon to Retrogression.
2) 70K visas are filed by Offshoring/Outsouring firms firms. This is where the actual problem is. They won't send all of them whom they file. They will unnecessarily waste all these H1s after getting approvals. I know so many visas are wasted by Satyem, Wipro, TCS, Infosys, Accenture and all other offershoring/outsourcing firms every year.
3) 15K-20K by US educated students. These are deserved to file.
4) 10K - New H1s for real projects needed by clients. These are also deserve to file for H1.
So, here the problem is Offshoring/Outsourcing firms who are abusing the law by filing and not sending all of them. I can definitely say 85% visas filed by these firms every year are wasted and they won't send all these employees whom they file. They are using this H1 as seat reservation in a bus/train. They only send very few and waste so many visas every year. In all these firms, i know so many employees are having H1 stamped and waiting to come here. But those companies selects very few and send them here. If at all we need any reform in H1B, then it is here by not allowing H1s from these Offshoring/Outsourcing firms. Then everybody will be happy. These firms can use only L1 for their company needs so that H1 won't be abused.
Also, first point, we can solve by passing the curent version of STRIVE.
So, we need to oppose this new H1B reform and make to sure that Congress passes STRIVE act provisions.
Any thoughts from my friends?
Let me guess. You have a friend or a relative in the H1 que. And this H1 applicant is either getting education in US or is not going to be an employee of a consulting firm.
Second guess: You have a US degree or you are not working for a conslting firm.
Why do you think the spouses on H4 do no deserve H1? If they want to work, why do you think that they should not compete in the job market?
BTW, the companies you are cursing, TCS, Wipro, Satyam etc., it is possible that soon the H1s applied by these companies will be exempt from numercial limit. Yes, you heard me right. Here is a bill that would make companies providing scholarships to undergrad and grad programs to be exempt from H1 numerical count. This is not a joke, read for yourself: :p
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pd_recapturing
04-07 02:33 PM
Guys, Please do not ridicule saralayar. he has raised a very valid point. We are so involved with the GC issue that we are not able to think beyond that. I do agree with the fact that IV is so preoccupoed with GC crisis that there is no point (or bandwidth) to raise citizenship issue. I have seen so many of my friends who came with me in US 8 years ago and are citizens by now but I am still struggling with GC with no hope in site. Sometime, I think, by the time, I will get GC (if I), they will become sr citizen :) it feels very bad but cant help it.
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frostrated
05-25 03:26 PM
If you intend to join this company on an EAD, then this company will HAVE to do an AC21.
Without an AC21, you will be working illegally as you are working for a company without proper work authorization. Your EAD will at all times require a sponsoring employer. When you are no longer working for your sponsoring company, you are in violation of your EAD authorization.
Hi
I have a full time offer from a well know company here in the bay area. I have an EAD.
The new company wants a copy of the following
1) Labor certification
2) I-140
The thing is I don't want the new employer to file AC-21 as it may back fire on my pending I-485 as we have seen in the cases in the past. with I-485 being denied etc.
Any one in same boat who was asked for labor as well as I-140 copy? How do I convince new employer that, AC-21 is not necessary to be filed?
Without an AC21, you will be working illegally as you are working for a company without proper work authorization. Your EAD will at all times require a sponsoring employer. When you are no longer working for your sponsoring company, you are in violation of your EAD authorization.
Hi
I have a full time offer from a well know company here in the bay area. I have an EAD.
The new company wants a copy of the following
1) Labor certification
2) I-140
The thing is I don't want the new employer to file AC-21 as it may back fire on my pending I-485 as we have seen in the cases in the past. with I-485 being denied etc.
Any one in same boat who was asked for labor as well as I-140 copy? How do I convince new employer that, AC-21 is not necessary to be filed?
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pmpforgc
04-14 08:14 AM
Permanent Resident Card
The Permanent Resident Card, Form I-551, is issued to all Permanent Residents as evidence of alien registration and their permanent status in the US. The card must be in your possession at all times. This requirement means that you are not only required to have a currently valid Form I-551 at all times, but also that you must carry your currently valid Form I-551 on your person at all times. The Permanent Resident Card currently is issued with a 10-year validity. You status as a Permanent Resident does not expire with the 10-year validity. Only the card expires. The card is only valid up to the expiration date and must be renewed before it expires.
source
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
This is good and healthhy discussion except for few who dont want to think beyond today's goal.
As someone has listed already few advantages of citizenship.
I would like to add that GC give you freedom in terms of the Emplyment and Residing in US. But it also has very strict criteria how you live in this country. You are no free with getting GC. Giving some points
You need to carry your GC all times with you.
You can be deported out of country if you dont report you forget to report your address changes.
You can be deported out of country for very small crimes such as DWI, shplifting etc.
Most of the states and federal govt dont emplyee non-citizens.
Several goverment benefits are not available to non-citizens
You can not be out of country for more than 6 months. And also not multiple time.
You need to able to prove that you ahve permanent ties to this country all the time you travel outside. (irrespective of time frame)
I am sure some other members can add lot to these points.
So in nut shell GC and Citizenship are totally different.
GC will just give you freedom from your employer. I am sure in long run you will also realize that your that freedom does not help you too much. May be a little bit if you are with consultant or IT field.
There is no harm in thinking ahead and thinking about citizenship. Those who will be satified with GC, does not need to worry about this discussion as they are no more interested in this future benefit.
Also there are lots of reasons that can be listed, why law makers will be interested in the advancing Citizenship benefit for HIGHLY SKILLED IMMIGRANT who is in the country for long time, has contributed to the Federal Taxes for five years, has good skills in STEM areas and has to suffer in comparision to Family based or marriage based applicants in terms of Citizenship. You can see recent advance of OPT for STEM graduates as small justifification for such hope.
So lets continue this discussion, and comeup with good demand list and supporting justification , in terms of Citizenship benefit for highly skilled immigrants who get GC based on emplpoyment.
The Permanent Resident Card, Form I-551, is issued to all Permanent Residents as evidence of alien registration and their permanent status in the US. The card must be in your possession at all times. This requirement means that you are not only required to have a currently valid Form I-551 at all times, but also that you must carry your currently valid Form I-551 on your person at all times. The Permanent Resident Card currently is issued with a 10-year validity. You status as a Permanent Resident does not expire with the 10-year validity. Only the card expires. The card is only valid up to the expiration date and must be renewed before it expires.
source
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
This is good and healthhy discussion except for few who dont want to think beyond today's goal.
As someone has listed already few advantages of citizenship.
I would like to add that GC give you freedom in terms of the Emplyment and Residing in US. But it also has very strict criteria how you live in this country. You are no free with getting GC. Giving some points
You need to carry your GC all times with you.
You can be deported out of country if you dont report you forget to report your address changes.
You can be deported out of country for very small crimes such as DWI, shplifting etc.
Most of the states and federal govt dont emplyee non-citizens.
Several goverment benefits are not available to non-citizens
You can not be out of country for more than 6 months. And also not multiple time.
You need to able to prove that you ahve permanent ties to this country all the time you travel outside. (irrespective of time frame)
I am sure some other members can add lot to these points.
So in nut shell GC and Citizenship are totally different.
GC will just give you freedom from your employer. I am sure in long run you will also realize that your that freedom does not help you too much. May be a little bit if you are with consultant or IT field.
There is no harm in thinking ahead and thinking about citizenship. Those who will be satified with GC, does not need to worry about this discussion as they are no more interested in this future benefit.
Also there are lots of reasons that can be listed, why law makers will be interested in the advancing Citizenship benefit for HIGHLY SKILLED IMMIGRANT who is in the country for long time, has contributed to the Federal Taxes for five years, has good skills in STEM areas and has to suffer in comparision to Family based or marriage based applicants in terms of Citizenship. You can see recent advance of OPT for STEM graduates as small justifification for such hope.
So lets continue this discussion, and comeup with good demand list and supporting justification , in terms of Citizenship benefit for highly skilled immigrants who get GC based on emplpoyment.
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sanju
04-08 08:18 AM
http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2007/apr/06it.htm
Check the above link too...
"The numbers speak for themselves. Accenture expects to reach 35,000 by the end of this financial year, a 52 per cent increase over last year. IBM already has 53,000 people in India, a 23 per cent increase over the previous year. By the end of the current financial year, Tata Consultancy Services plans to add 30,000 employees, taking its total headcount to 113,500. US-based Capgemini plans to employ 40,000 professionals by 2010."
Thanks gc_check,
Let�s ask the same group of members if IBM, Accenture and Cap Gemini could be labeled as "Indian Companies"? May be Ron Hira will have an answer to this question.
Check the above link too...
"The numbers speak for themselves. Accenture expects to reach 35,000 by the end of this financial year, a 52 per cent increase over last year. IBM already has 53,000 people in India, a 23 per cent increase over the previous year. By the end of the current financial year, Tata Consultancy Services plans to add 30,000 employees, taking its total headcount to 113,500. US-based Capgemini plans to employ 40,000 professionals by 2010."
Thanks gc_check,
Let�s ask the same group of members if IBM, Accenture and Cap Gemini could be labeled as "Indian Companies"? May be Ron Hira will have an answer to this question.
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Pallavi79
01-27 01:54 AM
<Quote>
I think our focus should be on the how improving the bottom line for our company , i think we should focus on cutting cost and improving productivity in our companies we work in this economy rather than discussing this useless housing stuff or stocks.</Quote>
Do you want to save when ceo's saves like this.
http://washingtonindependent.com/27317/former-merrill-ceo-paying-back-the-money-for-1k-trash-can-and-35k-commode
I think our focus should be on the how improving the bottom line for our company , i think we should focus on cutting cost and improving productivity in our companies we work in this economy rather than discussing this useless housing stuff or stocks.</Quote>
Do you want to save when ceo's saves like this.
http://washingtonindependent.com/27317/former-merrill-ceo-paying-back-the-money-for-1k-trash-can-and-35k-commode
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phillyag
08-04 10:09 PM
I am still waiting on my GC and hopeful it should go through this month.
I have a question around life after GC.....
Is it ok to quit the current employer right away after receiving GC ? Does one have to stick around for some time after gettting GC ? I am planning to start something on my own after GC
I have a question around life after GC.....
Is it ok to quit the current employer right away after receiving GC ? Does one have to stick around for some time after gettting GC ? I am planning to start something on my own after GC
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sanju
04-07 11:37 AM
This is actually a very good idea. Maybe not 10% even 25% is fine.
This way microsoft, oracle etc. can get their workers.
Even Deloitte, PWC they hire americans and pay you when you're on bench.
Unlike most indian consulting companies, which don't pay you when you're on bench and make you lie on your resume.
Why to you want to discriminate between one set of companies from another set of companies? In effect, discriminate between employees of one set of companies with the employee of other set of companies? Let me guess, you do not work for one set of companies but may possible work for another set of companies, right? I see some posts on the forum want to change the system as to best suitable their individual situation and they don't care if rest of the world is screwed.
With the green card backlogs, a lot of companies have many employees on H-1B status, waiting for their green card. As such the ratio of people on H1 to green card is increasing. Why do you want to punish the employee on H1, waiting for the green card for many years, because of retrogression? I am not able to understand the objective and rationale of your suggestion?
This bill is not just about limiting the % of employees on H1. It also says that employers will be "investigated" and "audited". "Investigation" is done when there is an allegation of a wrong-doing. So in essence, the bill says that as soon as you employ someone on H1, you have done something wrong. Even after listing the job on DOL website for 30 days and going through all the other stringent requirements, is that how it should be? When an employer hire an employee on H1, the employer is paying filing fee, lawyer’s fee and 8-10% taxes for hiring each employee. This "Investigation" and other stringent provisions to make it impractical to file H1 is simply to destroy H1 program. For now you may see the bill as to how it best suits your individual situation and then you may suggest how it further fit exactly into your situation before coming with an idea, like the one you suggested, but the bottom line is, this bill makes entire H1 program "non-workable" as mentioned by the administrator. And it applies to Oracle & IBM Consulting, PWC, Deloitte and every other employer.
This way microsoft, oracle etc. can get their workers.
Even Deloitte, PWC they hire americans and pay you when you're on bench.
Unlike most indian consulting companies, which don't pay you when you're on bench and make you lie on your resume.
Why to you want to discriminate between one set of companies from another set of companies? In effect, discriminate between employees of one set of companies with the employee of other set of companies? Let me guess, you do not work for one set of companies but may possible work for another set of companies, right? I see some posts on the forum want to change the system as to best suitable their individual situation and they don't care if rest of the world is screwed.
With the green card backlogs, a lot of companies have many employees on H-1B status, waiting for their green card. As such the ratio of people on H1 to green card is increasing. Why do you want to punish the employee on H1, waiting for the green card for many years, because of retrogression? I am not able to understand the objective and rationale of your suggestion?
This bill is not just about limiting the % of employees on H1. It also says that employers will be "investigated" and "audited". "Investigation" is done when there is an allegation of a wrong-doing. So in essence, the bill says that as soon as you employ someone on H1, you have done something wrong. Even after listing the job on DOL website for 30 days and going through all the other stringent requirements, is that how it should be? When an employer hire an employee on H1, the employer is paying filing fee, lawyer’s fee and 8-10% taxes for hiring each employee. This "Investigation" and other stringent provisions to make it impractical to file H1 is simply to destroy H1 program. For now you may see the bill as to how it best suits your individual situation and then you may suggest how it further fit exactly into your situation before coming with an idea, like the one you suggested, but the bottom line is, this bill makes entire H1 program "non-workable" as mentioned by the administrator. And it applies to Oracle & IBM Consulting, PWC, Deloitte and every other employer.
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rkg000
03-25 04:21 PM
1. You stopped worrying because you got your EAD at least.
2. USCIS is not asking to prove relationship with your great grandparents every time you go for H1B extension
3. You don�t need to worry about the VO at POE or consulate and not postponing your India trip for 3-4 years now.
4. Even though you are on project and pay roll is running, paying the tax...don�t lose your sleep over what memo comes next before the next H1B extension.
Our people are not worrying until it strikes them. Till then they will ask all sorts of questions and have attitude of why should I donate. You can see now and then a thread on IV - Help urgent, I-485 denied, H4- denied.
Why its urgent now for them...?
Mr. Nathan I have a great deal of respect for you and all those who have committed themselves to driving IV and all activities it is doing. But what you understood from my post is entirely wrong, and I have to explain why, because if this is the misconception you are having, not about me in particular but everyone who is not involved, then it definitely needs answers.
As I already clarified, I had stopped worrying about GC, long time ago, not after getting EAD.
I bought a house when I didn't even start my current GC process.
I went to India (Chennai) in my 7th year for H1 extension stamping (after completing 6 yrs of H1 and before I even filed 485). I didn't postpone it till I got EAD.
I left my employer who had filed for my labor in 2004 because he started acting up at the end of my project and started GC process with new employer well into my 6th year.
I do understand some people run to IV only in time of need. But all I am saying is not to paint everyone with same brush. Even if you think about people who want anything to do with IV only when there is need, lets try winning them over rather than stating the obvious and ridiculing them.
2. USCIS is not asking to prove relationship with your great grandparents every time you go for H1B extension
3. You don�t need to worry about the VO at POE or consulate and not postponing your India trip for 3-4 years now.
4. Even though you are on project and pay roll is running, paying the tax...don�t lose your sleep over what memo comes next before the next H1B extension.
Our people are not worrying until it strikes them. Till then they will ask all sorts of questions and have attitude of why should I donate. You can see now and then a thread on IV - Help urgent, I-485 denied, H4- denied.
Why its urgent now for them...?
Mr. Nathan I have a great deal of respect for you and all those who have committed themselves to driving IV and all activities it is doing. But what you understood from my post is entirely wrong, and I have to explain why, because if this is the misconception you are having, not about me in particular but everyone who is not involved, then it definitely needs answers.
As I already clarified, I had stopped worrying about GC, long time ago, not after getting EAD.
I bought a house when I didn't even start my current GC process.
I went to India (Chennai) in my 7th year for H1 extension stamping (after completing 6 yrs of H1 and before I even filed 485). I didn't postpone it till I got EAD.
I left my employer who had filed for my labor in 2004 because he started acting up at the end of my project and started GC process with new employer well into my 6th year.
I do understand some people run to IV only in time of need. But all I am saying is not to paint everyone with same brush. Even if you think about people who want anything to do with IV only when there is need, lets try winning them over rather than stating the obvious and ridiculing them.
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Michael chertoff
02-25 07:58 PM
Hotel near capitol hill. We will post it soon. But all our meetings are in this area.
I am not registered but will be there with atleast 10+ friends.
MC
I am not registered but will be there with atleast 10+ friends.
MC
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mhathi
10-05 03:54 PM
There was something about there may be forward movement in december given the rate of demand...
But whatever it is, I am sure it will be minuscule unless we get our acts together soon...
But whatever it is, I am sure it will be minuscule unless we get our acts together soon...
caliguy
01-19 11:20 AM
Have contributed $120 so far!!
Good job guys!
Good job guys!
BharatPremi
09-20 12:05 PM
Wow!!! I wish I could have attended this mesmarizing rally experience. Now can you guys come up with more data on who (Rally member) met who (Law makers / Media Persons ) and how those meetings were and what opinions you heard at least verbally. What we could successfully conveyed particularly to law makers etc...