485Mbe4001
05-17 11:51 AM
the average time is one month
Dear Members- Can you please share, how much time it takes approximately to get the first finger printing notice after applying for 485 @ NSC based on your experiences.
Appreciate your help
-Sravani
Dear Members- Can you please share, how much time it takes approximately to get the first finger printing notice after applying for 485 @ NSC based on your experiences.
Appreciate your help
-Sravani
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legal_la
06-29 05:24 PM
I wonder if such a reaction is warranted considering that there's official news from USCIS at this stage. I would not support the litigation.
If it does become official I guess we have to rush to file the suit, who knows may be they will have priority dates for the law suits too.
If it does become official I guess we have to rush to file the suit, who knows may be they will have priority dates for the law suits too.
PlainSpeak
01-12 06:22 PM
Dude, two words for you - sue IV.
If you are so sure that IV is taking your monies and screwing you, feel free to sue IV.
In this country, anybody can sue anybody over anything!
Now why would i sue IV. It is the organization which is making an effort. Sadly that effort is hurting EB3 folks. The whole idea is that we are a community and as a community we need to discuss all issues. Now when i talk about EB3 issues a EB2 volunteer (I commend you for doing what you are doing w.r.t. advocacy) asks me how many law makers did i meet. Now why would i meet a lawmaker as a representative of IV if i believe what IV articulates impacts EB3 adversly
If you are so sure that IV is taking your monies and screwing you, feel free to sue IV.
In this country, anybody can sue anybody over anything!
Now why would i sue IV. It is the organization which is making an effort. Sadly that effort is hurting EB3 folks. The whole idea is that we are a community and as a community we need to discuss all issues. Now when i talk about EB3 issues a EB2 volunteer (I commend you for doing what you are doing w.r.t. advocacy) asks me how many law makers did i meet. Now why would i meet a lawmaker as a representative of IV if i believe what IV articulates impacts EB3 adversly
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saileshdude
04-08 03:30 PM
EB1 spillover may never come for some time in the future. The Indian IT companies are applying under EB1 for their PMs and Senior PMs (req: BS in any discipline + 6-7 yrs exp), labeling them as multi-national executives. They are also making the employee pay for the 140 and 485 so that the financial impact is reduced a lot by a potential rejection of the 140.
This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:
You nailed it. This is the other form of labor substitution loophole the indian IT companies are using. Even I have started to hear quite a few cases now that indian IT PM or manager are being labelled as multi-national executives. If this is not stopped then any relief from spillover, you can just forget about it. I have heard lot of cases now like this and we need to do something about it. Only genuine candidates should be able to apply in this category.
This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:
You nailed it. This is the other form of labor substitution loophole the indian IT companies are using. Even I have started to hear quite a few cases now that indian IT PM or manager are being labelled as multi-national executives. If this is not stopped then any relief from spillover, you can just forget about it. I have heard lot of cases now like this and we need to do something about it. Only genuine candidates should be able to apply in this category.
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Chicago Desi
06-14 02:03 PM
Hastert Deals Blow to Immigration Bill
By SUZANNE GAMBOA
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 13, 2006; 7:57 PM
WASHINGTON -- Hopes for a quick compromise on immigration were dealt a blow Tuesday after House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he wanted to take a "long look" at a Senate bill offering possible citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.
Hastert said hearings on the Senate bill should be held before appointing anyone to a House-Senate committee to negotiate a compromise immigration bill. Later, he said he was unsure what the House's next move would be.
The Immigration Debate
IMG ALT The Washington Post's coverage of the immigration issue, from the politics of revising the nation's immigration laws to the impact of illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border and the Washington region.
"We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
<sarcasm>Yeah, good idea. Lets snooze for 10 billion years.</sarcasm>
Seriously, legals like us dont have any hope at this moment. Legals should be treated separately from illegals (or legals can wait for a miracle).
By SUZANNE GAMBOA
The Associated Press
Tuesday, June 13, 2006; 7:57 PM
WASHINGTON -- Hopes for a quick compromise on immigration were dealt a blow Tuesday after House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he wanted to take a "long look" at a Senate bill offering possible citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.
Hastert said hearings on the Senate bill should be held before appointing anyone to a House-Senate committee to negotiate a compromise immigration bill. Later, he said he was unsure what the House's next move would be.
The Immigration Debate
IMG ALT The Washington Post's coverage of the immigration issue, from the politics of revising the nation's immigration laws to the impact of illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border and the Washington region.
"We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
<sarcasm>Yeah, good idea. Lets snooze for 10 billion years.</sarcasm>
Seriously, legals like us dont have any hope at this moment. Legals should be treated separately from illegals (or legals can wait for a miracle).
TeddyKoochu
03-25 10:20 AM
Starsun I would request you to put in another clarification for the benefit of all so that IV Core's stand is well known and published. Predictions & calculations help people to know what the ground reality is and plan their lives. Now we don�t have people on IV whether EB2 or EB3 being sad after every VB because everyone knows when to expect what and predictions and calculations IMHO has gone a long way in correcting that situation.
I read several posts promoting advocacy which is very good however they take pride in trashing predictions and calculations for no apparent reason it seems to be in fashion / vogue. If advocacy has to be promoted it has to be done in a positive way there is no need to trash predictions and calculations at every available opportunity. Some of these immature comments are very disrespectful to the effort that is being put in my many of us on the predictions blog. If some people do not like what is being done on that blog they are really free not to visit but unnecessary comments should really stop or be moderated.
I read several posts promoting advocacy which is very good however they take pride in trashing predictions and calculations for no apparent reason it seems to be in fashion / vogue. If advocacy has to be promoted it has to be done in a positive way there is no need to trash predictions and calculations at every available opportunity. Some of these immature comments are very disrespectful to the effort that is being put in my many of us on the predictions blog. If some people do not like what is being done on that blog they are really free not to visit but unnecessary comments should really stop or be moderated.
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neelu
12-27 11:36 PM
^^^^^
Thank you, Leonqui.
Please also introduce ONE member and make sure that their information is up-to-date. And post on this thread once they join.
Thanks again.
Thank you, Leonqui.
Please also introduce ONE member and make sure that their information is up-to-date. And post on this thread once they join.
Thanks again.
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frozenfire
05-01 03:32 PM
1) Applied Date - July 18 2007
2) Audit Date - Oct 2007
3) Audit Reply Date - November 28 2007
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
2) Audit Date - Oct 2007
3) Audit Reply Date - November 28 2007
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
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bsbawa10
05-15 06:41 PM
Hi software7,
I do not want to hijack the thread but want to know if you wanted to share your attorney's name and contact info. I had a terrible experience with mine. For 7 years she never communicated with me unless she needed money and papers. She never responded to the phone calls or emails. She filed my case in eb3 and never told me that (I discovered that only 3 months ago..I was thinking for years that mine was eb2 as I have 2 masters and 18 years of experience). Now I am thinking of starting my GC all over again with eb2. If you can PM me or share your attorney contact info that would be great. If anybody else could help that is also very good. I am in Atlanta GA area.
I do not want to hijack the thread but want to know if you wanted to share your attorney's name and contact info. I had a terrible experience with mine. For 7 years she never communicated with me unless she needed money and papers. She never responded to the phone calls or emails. She filed my case in eb3 and never told me that (I discovered that only 3 months ago..I was thinking for years that mine was eb2 as I have 2 masters and 18 years of experience). Now I am thinking of starting my GC all over again with eb2. If you can PM me or share your attorney contact info that would be great. If anybody else could help that is also very good. I am in Atlanta GA area.
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espoir
05-15 03:08 PM
I just called Congressman Cuellar's office. I live in his constituency. They took my name and address. I will call the rest in the evening
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eb3retro
02-28 01:58 PM
After this waiting period, PERM was filed 9 days later KAPOON(approved)
andy
thanks andy. I am planning to use old PD , since I have a previously approved labour from EB3 ( i am trying for eb2 this time) do I need the original copy of the I-140 approval from my old employer? thanks.
andy
thanks andy. I am planning to use old PD , since I have a previously approved labour from EB3 ( i am trying for eb2 this time) do I need the original copy of the I-140 approval from my old employer? thanks.
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eb3_nepa
06-12 05:21 PM
... the problem however is that the laws and procedures of the land do not care if you are suffering to do things right which makes it an UNFAIR system.
Hold that thought Albaman, the verdict on immigration is not out yet. True the laws do not care if you are suffering but then you have to ask urself 2 questions:
1) B4 IV, how many organizations/Individuals have voiced their plights? If you keep suffering silently, even ur next door neighbour wont know if ur alive or dead.
2) We are not american citizens or even permanent residents. Why will the law and the lawmakers care for us automatically? Forget about vote-banks for a minute. Think about why they will care at all, especially when no one was voicing an increase in Green Cards? Big corps have voiced an increse in H1B's and they got it from time to time.
Hold that thought Albaman, the verdict on immigration is not out yet. True the laws do not care if you are suffering but then you have to ask urself 2 questions:
1) B4 IV, how many organizations/Individuals have voiced their plights? If you keep suffering silently, even ur next door neighbour wont know if ur alive or dead.
2) We are not american citizens or even permanent residents. Why will the law and the lawmakers care for us automatically? Forget about vote-banks for a minute. Think about why they will care at all, especially when no one was voicing an increase in Green Cards? Big corps have voiced an increse in H1B's and they got it from time to time.
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askbz1
05-06 12:49 PM
PERM Filed : October, 2007
Audit date : December, 2007
Reply Date : December, 2007
Category: EB3
NPC: Atlanta
Status: Pending
Field: Software
Country of Origin: India
Audit date : December, 2007
Reply Date : December, 2007
Category: EB3
NPC: Atlanta
Status: Pending
Field: Software
Country of Origin: India
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zen
04-09 08:57 PM
You don't contribute for FOIA. You don't want to accept that FOIA will help us. Thats your decision. IV does a lot things both in public and behind the scenes. All of this require money and time. You haven't contributed in past either. You come to IV and write post like these to make yourself feel better thinking you are doing something for your GC process. Fact is you are not helpful yourself. IV is nothing but people like you and me who are in the line for GC.
For a new action I would like you to lead it. You should meet your local law makers. Tell your personal story about the GC struggle. Ask them to bring up recapture and other bills which will help us. Then work with other people on the IV forum as well as in real world to do same.
I thought IV core is supposed to come out with action items (or lead - all they need to do is come out with an action thread and people will follow).
if people were to follow all calls from ordinary members then 2 things would have happened ..one IV would have been more dynamic (Since everyone is calling for action items) and people would be running in all directions.
this is probably my last post ..what is frustrating is that whenever anyone asks genuine questions ..people just jump and attack.
as for lobbying ...the maths is simple ..if IV is collecting around 10k (or less) every month ..then it will take 5 plus years to collect the money for any sensible lobbying ...
For a new action I would like you to lead it. You should meet your local law makers. Tell your personal story about the GC struggle. Ask them to bring up recapture and other bills which will help us. Then work with other people on the IV forum as well as in real world to do same.
I thought IV core is supposed to come out with action items (or lead - all they need to do is come out with an action thread and people will follow).
if people were to follow all calls from ordinary members then 2 things would have happened ..one IV would have been more dynamic (Since everyone is calling for action items) and people would be running in all directions.
this is probably my last post ..what is frustrating is that whenever anyone asks genuine questions ..people just jump and attack.
as for lobbying ...the maths is simple ..if IV is collecting around 10k (or less) every month ..then it will take 5 plus years to collect the money for any sensible lobbying ...
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SGP
04-16 06:23 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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bsbawa10
03-20 03:55 PM
Very nice thread. Can somebody summarize/collect all these things ? These things can be used for all purposes..like to write to Zoe 2. To write to USCIS itself 3. To write to Mr. President. and many other places
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caydee
01-01 09:50 PM
Hi Anshal,
Please check this CSPA clause (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=eab41f5a63d3c7d15b9d34a8c70b7 fb0) (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=eab41f5a63d3c7d15b9d34a8c70b7 fb0)
"(5) Visa Availability Date Regression . If a visa availability date regresses, and an alien has already filed a Form I-485 based on an approved Form I-130 or Form I-140, USCIS should retain the Form I-485 and note the visa availability date at the time the Form I-485 was filed. Once the visa number again becomes available for that preference category, determine whether the beneficiary is a “child” using the visa availability date marked on the Form I-485. If, however, an alien has not filed a Form I-485 prior to the visa availability date regressing, and then files a Form I-485 when the visa availability date again becomes current, the alien’s “age” should be determined using the subsequent visa availability date."
Speak to your attorney and post his/her views please.
Thanks,
Hello
I am confused about CSPA
My child will turn 21 march 2009, currently on EAD from the I485 filling in July 07, I140 approved in July 07, PD is Feb 07. I have not received any letter from USCIS about the immigration age of child being locked in at filling. Where does my child stand now?.
Please check this CSPA clause (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=eab41f5a63d3c7d15b9d34a8c70b7 fb0) (http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=eab41f5a63d3c7d15b9d34a8c70b7 fb0)
"(5) Visa Availability Date Regression . If a visa availability date regresses, and an alien has already filed a Form I-485 based on an approved Form I-130 or Form I-140, USCIS should retain the Form I-485 and note the visa availability date at the time the Form I-485 was filed. Once the visa number again becomes available for that preference category, determine whether the beneficiary is a “child” using the visa availability date marked on the Form I-485. If, however, an alien has not filed a Form I-485 prior to the visa availability date regressing, and then files a Form I-485 when the visa availability date again becomes current, the alien’s “age” should be determined using the subsequent visa availability date."
Speak to your attorney and post his/her views please.
Thanks,
Hello
I am confused about CSPA
My child will turn 21 march 2009, currently on EAD from the I485 filling in July 07, I140 approved in July 07, PD is Feb 07. I have not received any letter from USCIS about the immigration age of child being locked in at filling. Where does my child stand now?.
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gdhiren
09-20 11:53 AM
Dhiren - your baby is a hero before he/she is born - Kudos to your wife for doing the 2 mile walk - I know how it feels to walk with a baby - we are also in the same boat :)
I had been talking to Sivakanth and he told me how yourself, Arun and all your DC gang worked tirelessly
YOU GUYS were EXCELLENT and WONDERFUL
All this shows how much has gone into this rally and planning. This will give a sense of what it takes to achieve something that is phenomenal in nature.
Yes, we can achieve GROUND BREAKING results with folks like you
Thanks. I missed you. I think I should have seen you but can't remember. Since morning at least 10 people who i have talked to from Tri-State area asked me if I know where is chanduv23? they just wanted to see the great motivator like you. Please point me to the picture where I can find you. Your posts on the IV forum have been an inspiration for lot of folks. It takes people like you to form a group of wonderful hardworking folks.
I had been talking to Sivakanth and he told me how yourself, Arun and all your DC gang worked tirelessly
YOU GUYS were EXCELLENT and WONDERFUL
All this shows how much has gone into this rally and planning. This will give a sense of what it takes to achieve something that is phenomenal in nature.
Yes, we can achieve GROUND BREAKING results with folks like you
Thanks. I missed you. I think I should have seen you but can't remember. Since morning at least 10 people who i have talked to from Tri-State area asked me if I know where is chanduv23? they just wanted to see the great motivator like you. Please point me to the picture where I can find you. Your posts on the IV forum have been an inspiration for lot of folks. It takes people like you to form a group of wonderful hardworking folks.
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SDdesi
05-03 02:14 PM
Any news of approvals from NSC?
shaikhshehzadali
09-24 03:41 PM
Lets start a Rally or sending letters...Lets do something so that our pain..plight gets highlighted...It's really frustrating inspite of such backlogs people just keep quiet and don't do anything about it....I just can't imagine waiting another 5 yrs to get my GC....Lets get started with a Rally
tonyHK12
10-27 10:35 AM
Lets look at Rep. Smith - Reclaim American Jobs Caucus | Congressman Lamar Smith (http://lamarsmith.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=14781)
border control, we are against amnesty. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Provide solutions, if not a path towards legalization with due fines, what alternative do you suggest?
what do you think?
Good question.
The first point is illegals have to be paid at american laborer wages. They are currently dragging down labor wages. if the wage is monitored like H1b and set by the govt, enough american citizens of the 15 million unemployed, will take these jobs and illegals will have to leave.
Most people may not know, there are millions of American farmers, roofers, etc, who can't find a job because of illegals. We compete with americans at the same salary and with the disadvantage of visa overhead.
Not enough money? This is a big misconception and false statement thrown out by supporters of illegals. here are a few numbers thrown quickly:
a) It costs 1.5 billion dollars a year to put one armed soldier on every 100 yards of the border. Employment for 30,000 in the army.
b) it costs about 1 billion to deport 1 million illegals by plane. Do this for 2 years and enough will leave on their own.
These costs are trivial compared to a 2 Trillion annual budget and b) is a one time cost if we have a). Billions will be saved in welfare, housing, food stamps, education.
protecting the border is as important as fighting wars, which have already cost 100s of billions, if not more.
Will talk about H4 later, but the motto has always been - 'best person for the job' at legitimate American wages.
border control, we are against amnesty. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Provide solutions, if not a path towards legalization with due fines, what alternative do you suggest?
what do you think?
Good question.
The first point is illegals have to be paid at american laborer wages. They are currently dragging down labor wages. if the wage is monitored like H1b and set by the govt, enough american citizens of the 15 million unemployed, will take these jobs and illegals will have to leave.
Most people may not know, there are millions of American farmers, roofers, etc, who can't find a job because of illegals. We compete with americans at the same salary and with the disadvantage of visa overhead.
Not enough money? This is a big misconception and false statement thrown out by supporters of illegals. here are a few numbers thrown quickly:
a) It costs 1.5 billion dollars a year to put one armed soldier on every 100 yards of the border. Employment for 30,000 in the army.
b) it costs about 1 billion to deport 1 million illegals by plane. Do this for 2 years and enough will leave on their own.
These costs are trivial compared to a 2 Trillion annual budget and b) is a one time cost if we have a). Billions will be saved in welfare, housing, food stamps, education.
protecting the border is as important as fighting wars, which have already cost 100s of billions, if not more.
Will talk about H4 later, but the motto has always been - 'best person for the job' at legitimate American wages.