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  • Ramba
    09-25 06:52 PM
    I is only based on a law. In the past CIS used the law to implement one set of policy (horizontal spill over). Since the middle of 2008 CIS is using the same exact set of laws to implement a different set of policy (vertical spill over).

    They can interpret the law how the language was used in the legislation as well as what congress intended to do. Any way, before 2000, INA clearly enforce the veritcal spill over in EB catagories. After year 2000 (after AC21 amendment to INA) INA was modified to horizontal spillover. DOS did not noticed this change till 2007. Only after 2007 (after AILA&congress efforts) DOS paid the attention to the law change and exactly following the law. Till that point EB3 was benefitted. One of the purpose of AC21 law is, to remove country quota in EB catagories. The intension is, becuse of 7% country limitation, american competiveness should not be affected (to eliminate the limitation of the high skilled immigrants from oversubscribed countries in higer catagory).





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  • niuniuxin2006
    05-02 11:18 AM
    I am got audited at Atlanta. and I know many Chinese like me were stuck there too.

    Please open a new thread at to get more Atlanta victims here!!!

    and I would like to put this url on some Chinese immigration forum to get more data. But before that, could you please let me know what the next step so that I could get more People in.



    That is exactly my point that Perm Audit is not focused on Nationality, Field or EB category. If most people are from India, China, Philippines then automatically most audit cases are going to be from these countries.

    Are you also being audited?





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  • actaccord
    03-01 04:02 PM
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  • Lasantha
    04-10 11:43 AM
    U are welcome! Keep us posted.

    Thanks Lasantha :)



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  • nycguy30
    09-27 11:45 AM
    Originally Posted by nycguy30
    what it means

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    Document production or Oath Ceremony

    On July 29, 2009 we mailed the document to the address we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.

    This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a green card) or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, refugee travel documents or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

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    Document production or Oath Ceremony

    On July 29, 2009 we mailed the document to the address we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.

    This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a green card) or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, refugee travel documents or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

    [/quote]


    I got the same. Not sure if it is an error?





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  • SGP
    04-12 05:00 AM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")


    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html

    Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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  • 485_spouse
    05-15 02:32 PM
    You can use passport as picture ID where ever you needed.
    Thanks,
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  • Legal
    05-15 01:43 PM
    the person who took the phone asked where are you calling from? I think they care for calls only from the rep's distrcit? Also would verbal messages to any staff be sufficent? no fax?



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  • indi0818
    03-07 05:04 PM
    I renewed my passport last year. Initially I sent it to Houston consulate but I had sent with a NY address. So they sent everything back saying I have to approach NY consulate. But then again I sent to Houston with a Texas address. This time they processed it and sent my passport within 15 days. I think I also called them over the phone, and they patiently told me how long it might take to renew the passport.





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  • GotGC??
    01-17 04:38 PM
    Do you know the story of the crow getting to the water by putting pebbles into the jug which had very little water?

    Well, here we are: the water is IV's target...the pebbles are the contributions ($200, great, but $20, still good!!) from a large number of members. It's impossible to justify why one can not contribute $200 when the core members and some others like you & anurakt have given so much more. I believe it is equally important to encourage as many members to contribute as much they can.

    No contribution is too small if it is actually made. An ounce of action is better than a pound of intention!


    Some legislative action is expected in Feb. Money will be needed immediately. I don't think $20/month is the answer.

    I think $200 is a very reasonable amount based on the cause. Life is not a charity.

    You should pay a total of $200 immediately if you have paid less then $200.



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  • abhisam
    07-17 10:07 PM
    It is obvious that DOL backlog center is processing cases with utter disregard to FIFO procedures. Some people with priority dates in 2004 or 2005 have obtained their labor certifications, but some people with priority dates in 2001 or 2002 still do not know what is happening to their cases. If we file lawsuit against DOL on their inability to maintain FIFO procedures, what are the chances of success? Their inability to maintain FIFO procedures has brought great misery in lives of the people who stood in line for so many years so patiently.
    Just like the Right to Information act that was passed in India recently, the US also has the "Freedom of Information Act". I think you can ask for documentation from the agency to get information such why its taking so long for your application.

    You can find the details here:

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedom_of_Information_Act





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  • gc_check
    10-02 02:07 PM
    Another CIR drama prior to November election.. Let us see, at least if this gets any future than last few attempts in last couple years. Seen many attempts fails, and the introduction of CIR does not cause any excitement... Only if some thing results in a bill getting passed in congress..



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  • sravani
    05-15 02:17 PM
    My 485 reached NSC and the receipt date is - 04/19/2007.

    What is the approximate NSC processing time for sending out the Finger Print notices after applying the 485?

    Appreciate your help





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  • SGP
    04-08 03:10 PM
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD AFTERNOON GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Deadline = April 30th, 2011
    Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
    Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
    2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted”,
    3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")

    This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.

    As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.

    Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
    Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative

    As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.

    The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What can you do to participate?
    1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html

    Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated

    2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.

    I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)

    3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.

    Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.

    Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)

    (Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)

    Immigration Wiki -
    I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    PM these members for additional info:
    nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
    Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



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  • neelu
    12-14 11:35 AM
    One more person responded to my invitation.
    Welcome to IV, 'Padmaja'!

    Everyone, please bring ONE member to IV by December 31





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  • Amma
    11-07 03:27 PM
    to complete the application form. No harm.
    I did it for my renewal.

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  • BharatPremi
    10-12 08:21 PM
    That's simply incorrect. Since EB-2 India was held up at Jan 2003 from Oct 2005 to June 2007, most EB-2 filers from 2003 and 2004 are still very much out there and waiting. You have to remember that most 2003/04 EB-2 filers from California/NY/NJ/WA were rotting in BEC. High demand states have not approved any labors with 2003-2004 PD's before 2005 when BEC started to approve them. But this was too late as dates were already retrogressed, thus for almost 2 years there was build up for 2003/04 EB-2 cases. I know a lot of them personally.

    The only exception to this might be: There were very few cases filed in EB-2 during 2003 and 2004, but that is hard to believe.

    This was my complete quot for this particular part of the whole statement.

    "The fact is that most of Pre 2004 EB2 lot is already out of the system. Those who are still in are sufferer of namecheck and BECs.There is no perfect mechanism to determine the ratio but I would guess 80% are out from that group." but you somehow conviniently picked up first sentence only.

    So I have already mentioned about that. See the problem is that in this foolish system there is no perfect barometer we do have so we can state this will SURELY be a pattern... Yes many are still rotting in not only name check but even in BECs as of today. But most Pre 2004 EB2 lot is out. Now I can not tag a number for "Most"... I think best startegy is to wait for future bulletins. I have already stated my belief and that is with confidence. Does that mean I am trying to say "This will be the only pattern". In case of USCIS nobody can tell that.





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  • Pranav74
    11-28 10:17 PM
    Hello all,

    I live in Los Angeles and sent my application on 11/26/07 to CGI SF and received a call on 11/27/07 notifying me that it would take approximately 30 days to renew my passport since it has been over 3 years since it expired. Apparently they need to contact authorities in India to do additional background checking.

    Yes, I admit that it is my fault for not checking my passport prior to making travel plans and not renewing in time. However, with the hope that the "emergency/tatkal" scheme would work in getting my passport renewed before my departure date of 12/15/07, I did include the extra $90 for the "emergency/tatkal" scheme. Though I sent the extra money, as I mentioned above, they informed me that they would not be able to expedite my passport renewal.

    They informed me that the "emergency/tatkal" process is for grave emergencies only. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I don't have a close family member on their death-bed and I did not want to lie on the application.

    In any case, they have sent my application back and it seems that I am out-of-luck and will probably have to cancel my trip.

    However, I do have questions for people who have received renewed passports in less than 2 weeks from various CGI locations:

    1. Did you apply to the CGI in the appropriate jurisdiction?
    2. How long had it been since your passports had expired?
    3. Did you know people who worked at the CGI or just got lucky?





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  • ramhs
    02-21 11:32 PM
    I think BPC and new case PERM is same, if it is same position then employer has to withdraw the first case as of DOL new FAQ, if it different position then shouldn't have to withdraw the case, possibly audited by the DOL as of above explained rule..... If the case is audited how long it usually take DOL to decide,

    For 2nd Case should we file by mail, providing certain reason with the application?
    I personally know someone who got BPC labor approved in Eb3, then applied for Eb2 for same position , only difference was his first company was bought by another company and he applied Perm with 2nd company.





    smuggymba
    05-11 10:11 AM
    What nonsense is this.
    Isn't this supposed to be a public forum that people can join and share updates. There is no disclaimer that one needs to donate to participate in discussions on this forum.
    If donations are mandatory - this would have been a paid only website and access to all should have been restricted. I bet the participation and visibility of a useful site like this would be detrimental in this case.

    I said contribution, not donation. Money is not the only way to contribute.

    last week I spent 4 dollars in sending letters abt EB1 fraud - I did not spend much money but contributed; that's what i'm looking for.





    dollar500
    05-16 04:20 PM
    Some guy picked up. I asked for immigration person. He said he's away. Then I read up the text on IV message. He said "thanks for the comments"



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