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makemygc
07-05 12:34 PM
Just my $0.02:
I understand the frustration for IV to gather funds when it has so many members. But it's possible that IV has that many members because it is a free site.
If this becomes a paid site, you might see the number of members dwindle, and that's not a good idea because even if members don't financially contribute to IV, they do offer their perspectives/opinions/feedback/critique and help others. Those who want to financially contribute to IV will do so whether IV is a free or a paid site.
IMHO, it would be a mistake to make IV a paid site thinking that this will force members to financially contribute. Sure IV forums helped a lot with finding information about I-485 applications, but people have been filing I-485s on their own even before IV was in existence. Which is not to say, IV has no value, but I hope you see where I am going with this....if members don't want to contribute, then they won't. They will go to other forums like they used to before IV was in existence...which will be a step down, but at least they are holding on to their $20 or howmuchever.
Before replying to this, please read my disclaimer below. I have to add it given the fact how hot-headed/short-tempered members have been in the last few days where they will flame someone just because their opinions differ.
Thanks,
Jayant
Disclaimer: These are my opinions. You don't have to agree with them. If you disagree, just ignore them. I am not interested in justifying myself about anything that you might have to say. I would, however, welcome a civil and a healthy discussion.
I agree with you 100%. We are so much divided community, lets not create another factor to divide this community further in paid and non-paid members.
Core, if you see this thread is not part of yor agenda, please close this immediately. This is just dividing us further. Plzzzzzzzz.
I understand the frustration for IV to gather funds when it has so many members. But it's possible that IV has that many members because it is a free site.
If this becomes a paid site, you might see the number of members dwindle, and that's not a good idea because even if members don't financially contribute to IV, they do offer their perspectives/opinions/feedback/critique and help others. Those who want to financially contribute to IV will do so whether IV is a free or a paid site.
IMHO, it would be a mistake to make IV a paid site thinking that this will force members to financially contribute. Sure IV forums helped a lot with finding information about I-485 applications, but people have been filing I-485s on their own even before IV was in existence. Which is not to say, IV has no value, but I hope you see where I am going with this....if members don't want to contribute, then they won't. They will go to other forums like they used to before IV was in existence...which will be a step down, but at least they are holding on to their $20 or howmuchever.
Before replying to this, please read my disclaimer below. I have to add it given the fact how hot-headed/short-tempered members have been in the last few days where they will flame someone just because their opinions differ.
Thanks,
Jayant
Disclaimer: These are my opinions. You don't have to agree with them. If you disagree, just ignore them. I am not interested in justifying myself about anything that you might have to say. I would, however, welcome a civil and a healthy discussion.
I agree with you 100%. We are so much divided community, lets not create another factor to divide this community further in paid and non-paid members.
Core, if you see this thread is not part of yor agenda, please close this immediately. This is just dividing us further. Plzzzzzzzz.
stucklabor
07-25 08:43 PM
Guys,
This argument is not new. I had started a thread a while back http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=556&highlight=bkarnik
which met with essentially the same reply from the IV moderators. My underlying issue is that the term "EAD" or anything remotely similar does not even appear in the INA unless I missed it and if so, I would really appreciate it if someone show me where it is.
Once more unto the breach, my English friends.
BKarnik, there are sections in INA that use the phrase "Employment Authorization". For instance, see this base page for INA.
http://www.uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/slb/slb-1/slb-20?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm#slb-act
Sec. 106 deals with Employment authorization of battered spouses, right on the front page of the link. There are other sections in INA that deal specifically with Employment Authorization. The problem obviously is that each class of aliens eligible for Employment Authorization has their EAD specified in their own section. 8CFR ties all of these classes together in a single place.
This argument is not new. I had started a thread a while back http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=556&highlight=bkarnik
which met with essentially the same reply from the IV moderators. My underlying issue is that the term "EAD" or anything remotely similar does not even appear in the INA unless I missed it and if so, I would really appreciate it if someone show me where it is.
Once more unto the breach, my English friends.
BKarnik, there are sections in INA that use the phrase "Employment Authorization". For instance, see this base page for INA.
http://www.uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/slb/slb-1/slb-20?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm#slb-act
Sec. 106 deals with Employment authorization of battered spouses, right on the front page of the link. There are other sections in INA that deal specifically with Employment Authorization. The problem obviously is that each class of aliens eligible for Employment Authorization has their EAD specified in their own section. 8CFR ties all of these classes together in a single place.
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chanduv23
02-13 10:55 PM
Dear friends,
I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. If any of you remember your history lessons from high school, the English used this exact policy of "Divide and Rule" to keep control over their colonies.
For example, in India, they would go into Moslem dominated cities, discriminate against them for jobs, and put Hindus in more prestigious positions, and vice-versa. They did this after the first war for independence in 1857 where Hindus, Moslems, rich and poor fought to overthrow the British occupation.
The very same policy is used by the U.S. government to control their population:
1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting
2) Infighting causes immigrant activists like IV to lose focus and weaken the agenda
3) Infighting results in racism between ROW, India, and China, which causes Americans to watch the circus, shake their heads and lobby for more immigration control
4) Poor regulation in the H1B program cause Americans to lose their jobs and blame the Indians and Chinese
...and the elite sit back, sip their martinis, and watch the fun.
So you have two choices before you:
1) Keep fighting, achieve none of the 3 main IV objectives, and continue your bonded slavery or
2) Unite as one to achieve all 3 objectives, and throw off your shackles
Remember, "Injustice Anywhere is a Threat to Justice Everywhere" - Martin Luther King
I am a strong advocate of Unity and I appreciate your post. Infighting exists everywhere, it is not created but exists in us and our thought process. Let us not say that USCIS or US govt creates the "infighting" by divide and rule. We fight among ourselves because we are unorganized and do not have a platform. IV has provided one of the biggest platforms that caters to all highly skilled immigrants which covers a broad range of issues and is a wonderful platform for all of us to unite.
United we stand, divided we fall - if people find reasons not to be united, then they can expect Lou Dobbs accusing them even after they become US citizens
I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. If any of you remember your history lessons from high school, the English used this exact policy of "Divide and Rule" to keep control over their colonies.
For example, in India, they would go into Moslem dominated cities, discriminate against them for jobs, and put Hindus in more prestigious positions, and vice-versa. They did this after the first war for independence in 1857 where Hindus, Moslems, rich and poor fought to overthrow the British occupation.
The very same policy is used by the U.S. government to control their population:
1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting
2) Infighting causes immigrant activists like IV to lose focus and weaken the agenda
3) Infighting results in racism between ROW, India, and China, which causes Americans to watch the circus, shake their heads and lobby for more immigration control
4) Poor regulation in the H1B program cause Americans to lose their jobs and blame the Indians and Chinese
...and the elite sit back, sip their martinis, and watch the fun.
So you have two choices before you:
1) Keep fighting, achieve none of the 3 main IV objectives, and continue your bonded slavery or
2) Unite as one to achieve all 3 objectives, and throw off your shackles
Remember, "Injustice Anywhere is a Threat to Justice Everywhere" - Martin Luther King
I am a strong advocate of Unity and I appreciate your post. Infighting exists everywhere, it is not created but exists in us and our thought process. Let us not say that USCIS or US govt creates the "infighting" by divide and rule. We fight among ourselves because we are unorganized and do not have a platform. IV has provided one of the biggest platforms that caters to all highly skilled immigrants which covers a broad range of issues and is a wonderful platform for all of us to unite.
United we stand, divided we fall - if people find reasons not to be united, then they can expect Lou Dobbs accusing them even after they become US citizens
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cbadari99
02-14 01:18 AM
1 Post WW-1 Germany started to prosper economically, Jewish people have significantly contributed to its development especially by intellectual activities and in knowledge based industry
People of Asian (mostly Indians and Chinese) origin have contributed significantly to the knowledge industry of US and enhanced its intellectual capital
2. Since 1933, Nazi party, their parliamentarians several organizations and general media started a hate campaign against Jews blaming them for all ills of Germany
In US, Different organizations, media personnel and some congressmen started criticizing H1B workers as if they are to blame for the financial downturn and job loss
3. Nazi Eugenics lead by Josef Mengele and others prove through scientific experiment that Jews and non Aryans are intellectually inferior and unworthy to live. Their work was funded by Nazi party
Norman Matloff have performed detailed study to prove that Indian and Chinese people are incapable of innovating. Research funded by CIS whose origin is questionable
4. Jews were to wear special badges with Yuden written in it so that SS guys can identify them easily
Several US states starts issuing DLs that has a different orientation with "TEMPORARY VISITOR" written across it so that cops can easily identify immigrants
5. Starting from 1933, a number of restrictive laws prohibited Jews from taking up professions as lawyers, civil service, professors etc to protect German Jobs
US Congress started imposing some impossible restriction on hiring mostly Indians and Chinese people in key industries and financial sector
6. A strong wave of protectionist sentiment swept Germany. Members of of the Sturmabteilung started picketing outside Jewish business with "Germans! Defend yourselves! Don't buy from Jews."
Strong protectionist sentiment in USA. Different US organizations cautioning against Indian firms in the name of defending American jobs
7. Raiding Jewish business and making arrests on a number of charges
Arrests and charges against body shops have started on body shops.
More to follow
People of Asian (mostly Indians and Chinese) origin have contributed significantly to the knowledge industry of US and enhanced its intellectual capital
2. Since 1933, Nazi party, their parliamentarians several organizations and general media started a hate campaign against Jews blaming them for all ills of Germany
In US, Different organizations, media personnel and some congressmen started criticizing H1B workers as if they are to blame for the financial downturn and job loss
3. Nazi Eugenics lead by Josef Mengele and others prove through scientific experiment that Jews and non Aryans are intellectually inferior and unworthy to live. Their work was funded by Nazi party
Norman Matloff have performed detailed study to prove that Indian and Chinese people are incapable of innovating. Research funded by CIS whose origin is questionable
4. Jews were to wear special badges with Yuden written in it so that SS guys can identify them easily
Several US states starts issuing DLs that has a different orientation with "TEMPORARY VISITOR" written across it so that cops can easily identify immigrants
5. Starting from 1933, a number of restrictive laws prohibited Jews from taking up professions as lawyers, civil service, professors etc to protect German Jobs
US Congress started imposing some impossible restriction on hiring mostly Indians and Chinese people in key industries and financial sector
6. A strong wave of protectionist sentiment swept Germany. Members of of the Sturmabteilung started picketing outside Jewish business with "Germans! Defend yourselves! Don't buy from Jews."
Strong protectionist sentiment in USA. Different US organizations cautioning against Indian firms in the name of defending American jobs
7. Raiding Jewish business and making arrests on a number of charges
Arrests and charges against body shops have started on body shops.
More to follow
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03-13 09:15 AM
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signifer123
02-16 06:20 AM
Yeah that scared the crap out of me...good luck beating him anyone, dang thats how mine was gonna look.
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weasley
02-12 05:38 AM
True. We need members like desi3933 ( got GC and citizenship), United Nations (think he got GC) who spend time here and provide real details. I have read many posts of Desi3933 which are really helpful and he does speak with facts.
we need folks such as desi3933 here. No where he vented any frustration. Take your garbage and frustration some where else.
we need folks such as desi3933 here. No where he vented any frustration. Take your garbage and frustration some where else.
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jthomas
10-16 05:41 PM
I would think better than doing one day off from work let all the state chapters do a mela for diwali, distrubute flyers, educate american citizens about legal immigration, get contributions and then pass on to IV.
Lets check which state chapter can get max contributions
Rather than a flower campaign, I'd rather have no EB legal immigrants at work day where every single legal immigrant and should not go to work.
If you have or want citizenship via EB Immigration, you don't go to work for one day, say Jan 02 2009. Then people will realize that we are important to them. A lot more than Gmail (http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/16/194244) will be down.
Lets check which state chapter can get max contributions
Rather than a flower campaign, I'd rather have no EB legal immigrants at work day where every single legal immigrant and should not go to work.
If you have or want citizenship via EB Immigration, you don't go to work for one day, say Jan 02 2009. Then people will realize that we are important to them. A lot more than Gmail (http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/16/194244) will be down.
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newuser
05-06 03:28 PM
I got a reply from USCIS saying that they can process the request sorted by priority date and country of birth of the applicant. Processing time will be around 15 months and that they have got their answer on priority date.
what are the next steps?
15 MONTHS.....:mad:
what are the next steps?
15 MONTHS.....:mad:
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coopheal
02-19 05:28 PM
Could one of you summarize HR 264 bill on the wiki.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php?title=HR_264_(2008-2010)&action=edit
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php?title=HR_264_(2008-2010)&action=edit
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ss777
05-12 03:04 PM
Online MBA from University of Maryland University College matches the criteria you mentioned (to a larger extent). Also you can have MBA degree in 2 yrs. The course work is demanding and one would need TOEFL if not educated in US or few other countries. GMAT is not required.
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sunitharay
08-14 05:14 PM
When did you submitted your applications?
Please let me know? thanks
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06-10 06:39 PM
Me and 10 of my friends at work have sent the email.
My wife and the wife's of friends have sent too.
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rkay
05-23 02:08 PM
MBA is not for everyone and in addition, an Online MBA doesn't have any value. MBA is not the same thing as learning cntrl C and cntrl V and then working for a shady desi consultant.
All these years in US, getgreensoon1's expertise in IT ?
cntrl C and cntrl V !
All these years in US, getgreensoon1's expertise in IT ?
cntrl C and cntrl V !
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paskal
04-08 11:19 AM
If you want a good discussion on a topic stop generalizing things and do not use rants like racist engineers etc. When you make an assumption please be clear about. You have assumed most people work for consulting companies and most people are frustrated with it. Not so. I don't work for them and I am not frustrated with them. My only concern with them is they are exploiting the system to their advantage and at my cost. This has two fold affect not only the take cut from your salary but also put a bad name to H1B visa program in general. Whoever wrote the bill or whatever are the consequences there is definitely some good things in that bill. Let me list out how some provisions are good:
1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.
2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.
If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.
on the face of it i largely agree, you are however misisng something important in my opinion. Look at the Lc process for Gc carefully. A company is required to advertise then employ any citizen with "minimum requirements" whether or not they are suitable or the best candidate. If the same were to be applied to the H1b- and to renewals, mind it, consider whether most H1B visa holders would be able to continue.
the fact that reform is needed does not mean this is the best way.
and btw i wonder what happens to true consulting companies- BCG, Oracle etc whose business is to provide these services. They are not some abusive offshore operation....how is it fair to them? Seems a bit radical to me...not that i oppose the need for reform.
1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.
2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.
If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.
on the face of it i largely agree, you are however misisng something important in my opinion. Look at the Lc process for Gc carefully. A company is required to advertise then employ any citizen with "minimum requirements" whether or not they are suitable or the best candidate. If the same were to be applied to the H1b- and to renewals, mind it, consider whether most H1B visa holders would be able to continue.
the fact that reform is needed does not mean this is the best way.
and btw i wonder what happens to true consulting companies- BCG, Oracle etc whose business is to provide these services. They are not some abusive offshore operation....how is it fair to them? Seems a bit radical to me...not that i oppose the need for reform.
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godspeed
06-11 09:40 AM
and forwarded to 20 of my friends, will follow up with them to send the message
chanduv23
02-15 07:03 AM
I have heard that there are desi consultants who sponsor H-1 for people graduating with Masters in US, irrespective of which field they are in. Is this true? Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Thats a new trend. They go to colleges and meet a group of Indian students who are about to graduate and take them out of drinks and dinner and give a presentation about their company. Then when these students come into OPT status, they are all given food + guest house accomodation. Then they are put under intense training for 2 to 3 months and made to do some mockup projects. Then their resumes are massaged with 4 to 5 years of experience ie experience from date they graduated in the under graduation and their MS education is stripped off on their resumes.
This seems to be a trend, though the practice seems not too good. As most immigrant students are hard working and determined, they put additional hours and make up for experience and perform well at clients. They get a decent 65K to start with from the consulting company and their h1bs are filed well before the cap ends.
Thats a new trend. They go to colleges and meet a group of Indian students who are about to graduate and take them out of drinks and dinner and give a presentation about their company. Then when these students come into OPT status, they are all given food + guest house accomodation. Then they are put under intense training for 2 to 3 months and made to do some mockup projects. Then their resumes are massaged with 4 to 5 years of experience ie experience from date they graduated in the under graduation and their MS education is stripped off on their resumes.
This seems to be a trend, though the practice seems not too good. As most immigrant students are hard working and determined, they put additional hours and make up for experience and perform well at clients. They get a decent 65K to start with from the consulting company and their h1bs are filed well before the cap ends.
kishdam
02-20 03:28 PM
Thats a slight good news (in the current bad news or no news era regarding legal immigration) - hopefully there are are enough EB1 spillover visas to move EB2 by a few months each quarter.