sushilup
07-11 08:28 AM
I agree with tnite
But the downside to this is that most EB2 July filers have (or will be) been renewing their EAD's in August/Sepetember and this bulleting will not let USCIS give out 2 yr EAD's and instead hand out 1 yr ones.
Just because your PD is current dosnt mean that USCIS will process your apps right away. There are folks whose PD was current under July bulletin and their apps haven't been touched based on some anecdotal evidence here..
But the Eb3 news is not good.
just my 2 cents
But the downside to this is that most EB2 July filers have (or will be) been renewing their EAD's in August/Sepetember and this bulleting will not let USCIS give out 2 yr EAD's and instead hand out 1 yr ones.
Just because your PD is current dosnt mean that USCIS will process your apps right away. There are folks whose PD was current under July bulletin and their apps haven't been touched based on some anecdotal evidence here..
But the Eb3 news is not good.
just my 2 cents
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akhilmahajan
10-25 11:15 PM
Same with me. I hope people understand that this is a serious issue.
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09-13 01:23 AM
send to Chris Matthews of Hardball and Keith Olbermann of Countdown.
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nixstor
04-30 03:07 PM
SO IF they move PD's to 2006 dec then there is aposibility that all 2006 pd 's get GC's before @001 pd's.:mad:
Aytes said " We are moving towards processing based on the shift in priority dates"
what I understood is Aytes is talking about the sweep USCIS is conducting as soon as the VB released. The sweep was mentioned by a lot of service center personnel when members were calling for case status
Aytes said " We are moving towards processing based on the shift in priority dates"
what I understood is Aytes is talking about the sweep USCIS is conducting as soon as the VB released. The sweep was mentioned by a lot of service center personnel when members were calling for case status
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chanduv23
05-14 11:58 AM
Just an update from my side:
I have just talked local Congresswoman's Office and I have talked to a staff member for 1 hour and she is helping me. She is going to call NSC and get to the root cause of this problem.
Guys,
If you are reading this, do not lose hope. We have to try every avenue and knock every door that is open.
Great going. Please post your updates. I am sure, you will be fine.
I have just talked local Congresswoman's Office and I have talked to a staff member for 1 hour and she is helping me. She is going to call NSC and get to the root cause of this problem.
Guys,
If you are reading this, do not lose hope. We have to try every avenue and knock every door that is open.
Great going. Please post your updates. I am sure, you will be fine.
singhsa3
09-12 11:13 AM
Chandrakanth,
I agree with you 100% but it is a separate issue and must be done. What USCIS suggested to DOS that has resulted in visa bulletin is unacceaptle.
They practically said to DOS, Big Brother, "I don't know" .
How can they not know how many people are standing in line. When you and I take infopass, they can tell your category and priority date and whether you name check is passed or not. How come then they are having difficulties in collecting this data and sending it to DOS.
In my opinion
(1) Community must unite
(2) People must come out of anonymity by providing true information
(3) People must walk the talk - just not open threads and keep discussing
(4) Efforts must be well organized - IV is a great organization - we have state chapters where people can organize themselves - helps us all to do things more effectively
The biggest issue is - everyone come here and open threads but it alll stops there - people join state chapters but do nothing - just want to get updates - and always blame IV for whatever happens and question IV and want to grill IV as to what IV is doing.
Can we all get organized?
Sanjeev - I am sorry I am digressing from the original plan of this thread - but lets face reality - what is the use of all these tangential efforts - you may get hundreds of replies on this thread - but is there a proper directive? No one knows what to do it all starts and ends in discussion and waste of valuble time doing nothing.
I would rather recommend
(1) Lets get organized
(2) Give out proper information
(3) Pledge wholehearted support
(4) Be committed
(5) Join a state chapter
(6) Expand the community
(7) Work hard
(8) gather support
(9) take initiatives to lead - support will follow
(10) Do not waste time on unnecessary predictions, discussing waste, roumors etc...
(11) Understand the effort - lobbying - understand that IV needs a lot of money for lobbying - please contribute - please raise funds
Is everyone ready to do the above?
I agree with you 100% but it is a separate issue and must be done. What USCIS suggested to DOS that has resulted in visa bulletin is unacceaptle.
They practically said to DOS, Big Brother, "I don't know" .
How can they not know how many people are standing in line. When you and I take infopass, they can tell your category and priority date and whether you name check is passed or not. How come then they are having difficulties in collecting this data and sending it to DOS.
In my opinion
(1) Community must unite
(2) People must come out of anonymity by providing true information
(3) People must walk the talk - just not open threads and keep discussing
(4) Efforts must be well organized - IV is a great organization - we have state chapters where people can organize themselves - helps us all to do things more effectively
The biggest issue is - everyone come here and open threads but it alll stops there - people join state chapters but do nothing - just want to get updates - and always blame IV for whatever happens and question IV and want to grill IV as to what IV is doing.
Can we all get organized?
Sanjeev - I am sorry I am digressing from the original plan of this thread - but lets face reality - what is the use of all these tangential efforts - you may get hundreds of replies on this thread - but is there a proper directive? No one knows what to do it all starts and ends in discussion and waste of valuble time doing nothing.
I would rather recommend
(1) Lets get organized
(2) Give out proper information
(3) Pledge wholehearted support
(4) Be committed
(5) Join a state chapter
(6) Expand the community
(7) Work hard
(8) gather support
(9) take initiatives to lead - support will follow
(10) Do not waste time on unnecessary predictions, discussing waste, roumors etc...
(11) Understand the effort - lobbying - understand that IV needs a lot of money for lobbying - please contribute - please raise funds
Is everyone ready to do the above?
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jonty_11
07-06 10:32 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/06/us/06visa.html?hp
Can someone please put this on digg?
***
To complete the applications in time, the immigration agency put employees to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, immigration officials said. They said that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday’s deadline.
In some cases, security clearances required by the F.B.I. were not entirely completed, immigration officials said. The agency approved some applications “when we were certain the process will be completed very shortly,” Mr. Aytes said.
*****
looks like there main purpose was to deny us filing 485 application....i cannot believe they could go to such lengths to prevent high loads of work which they feared.
It was better for them to work 1 weekend 24/7 (nonstop) rather than working everyday for 8 hours (which is what our application may have caused them to do)
Can someone please put this on digg?
***
To complete the applications in time, the immigration agency put employees to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, immigration officials said. They said that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday’s deadline.
In some cases, security clearances required by the F.B.I. were not entirely completed, immigration officials said. The agency approved some applications “when we were certain the process will be completed very shortly,” Mr. Aytes said.
*****
looks like there main purpose was to deny us filing 485 application....i cannot believe they could go to such lengths to prevent high loads of work which they feared.
It was better for them to work 1 weekend 24/7 (nonstop) rather than working everyday for 8 hours (which is what our application may have caused them to do)
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paskal
07-06 01:05 PM
Man, in frustration people do not even know what to say and what not! Be very careful of what you spin and what you say. From the looks of it, this stuff has every chance of spinning out of control and it may have already started the ball rolling.Think about it for a second!. Once it goes that way, trust me, we will all live to regret that.
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
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you are right.
therefore iv's stand on this has been very careful.
we are happy that uscis is showing great efficiency. the fact they screwed up with the original visa bulletin is a whole separate issue, the question is- why are we suffering for their mistake?
all iv memmbers are encouraged not to harp the security issue, it's not in our interest.
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
~AMK
you are right.
therefore iv's stand on this has been very careful.
we are happy that uscis is showing great efficiency. the fact they screwed up with the original visa bulletin is a whole separate issue, the question is- why are we suffering for their mistake?
all iv memmbers are encouraged not to harp the security issue, it's not in our interest.
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ab_tak_chappan
08-15 08:53 PM
do u expect people to stick around even they get their GC? come on dude.. once anyone gets a GC they start working towards their next target. I don't see anything wrong in it:D:D
True, once the people realize that they are close to GC they forget all tasks and move on to the other forums (R2I or USC or whatever) there are very few who actually stay on and help add this to the fact that most of the EB3-I's got fed up with the nonsense going on (most were only looking for a sounding board to voice their dismay, instead they were reminded of the caste system). So EB2's stop working because their PD is current and EBs stop because there is little hope/chance/help. We can dissect the VB as much as we want, the fact of the matter is that EB3 as a whole and EB3 (india &China) in particular are screwed big time. There is hope in the Logfren bills but the congress seems to have other 'important' issues to discuss.
We should take the campaign to a new level move from individuals to involving groups and compaines. They have more money and power to make things move. EB3 & EB2 discussions will go on for ever, we can either decide to wallow in our sorrow or do something. Lets identify groups who can help us and write to them. Each EB should talk to his/her HR and ask them to write a letter to their congressman/Senator it will have a bigger impact.
What are your thoughts?
True, once the people realize that they are close to GC they forget all tasks and move on to the other forums (R2I or USC or whatever) there are very few who actually stay on and help add this to the fact that most of the EB3-I's got fed up with the nonsense going on (most were only looking for a sounding board to voice their dismay, instead they were reminded of the caste system). So EB2's stop working because their PD is current and EBs stop because there is little hope/chance/help. We can dissect the VB as much as we want, the fact of the matter is that EB3 as a whole and EB3 (india &China) in particular are screwed big time. There is hope in the Logfren bills but the congress seems to have other 'important' issues to discuss.
We should take the campaign to a new level move from individuals to involving groups and compaines. They have more money and power to make things move. EB3 & EB2 discussions will go on for ever, we can either decide to wallow in our sorrow or do something. Lets identify groups who can help us and write to them. Each EB should talk to his/her HR and ask them to write a letter to their congressman/Senator it will have a bigger impact.
What are your thoughts?
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Milind123
09-14 01:12 PM
Great job Milind!
Keep it up! You should be our "guest of honor" at the rally!
How about we build a "wooden" chair and carry you around at the rally? Not to mention lots of flower garlands! :)
What do you say folks?
Thanks dtekkedil. Now you are stopping me from coming to the rally. There are other people who deserve this honor more.
Keep it up! You should be our "guest of honor" at the rally!
How about we build a "wooden" chair and carry you around at the rally? Not to mention lots of flower garlands! :)
What do you say folks?
Thanks dtekkedil. Now you are stopping me from coming to the rally. There are other people who deserve this honor more.
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cinqsit
12-10 03:55 PM
Yes the bulletin is pretty detailed. Explaining logic behind per country limit and movement of cutoff dates. Certainly a first in a Visa Bulletin.
Needless to say, CIR with provisions to address this backlog is the only hope for both i REITERATE - BOTH EB2 as well as EB3... divisiveness will certainly lead to failure or atleast a never ending wait for some of us....
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Needless to say, CIR with provisions to address this backlog is the only hope for both i REITERATE - BOTH EB2 as well as EB3... divisiveness will certainly lead to failure or atleast a never ending wait for some of us....
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addsf345
11-17 02:23 PM
One of IV members 'lazycis' (he is a knowledgable & senior member) also mentioned this, which exactly matches with what RG said:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=301999&postcount=16
so I am sure there are some provisions. I hope 'lazycis' will provide some more info if he sees this post.
Edit: Chandu - please click this link to read on RG's forums. (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461)
Pardon my ignorance, but is this something we can ask clarification from CIS Ombudsman? Its real confusing:confused:
Some updates: I talked to two different lawyers and both advised differently on this issue. In fact I got the impression that one of them didn't have much clue as much as some experienced IV members have. (He said if job titles are different than you have issues...) There are many people hanging on to their current employer due to confusion on this issue and potential effect on pending GC.
and the great question continues to haunt: can a person keep working legally on EAD status if his/hers I-485 gets revoked in error by CIS? or he will be forced to resign from a new job when his MTR is being filed or in progress??? This is really killing me. Who has the answer? if anyone knows, please please share!
lazycis, chanduv - anyone to comment on above new information???
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=301999&postcount=16
so I am sure there are some provisions. I hope 'lazycis' will provide some more info if he sees this post.
Edit: Chandu - please click this link to read on RG's forums. (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461)
Pardon my ignorance, but is this something we can ask clarification from CIS Ombudsman? Its real confusing:confused:
Some updates: I talked to two different lawyers and both advised differently on this issue. In fact I got the impression that one of them didn't have much clue as much as some experienced IV members have. (He said if job titles are different than you have issues...) There are many people hanging on to their current employer due to confusion on this issue and potential effect on pending GC.
and the great question continues to haunt: can a person keep working legally on EAD status if his/hers I-485 gets revoked in error by CIS? or he will be forced to resign from a new job when his MTR is being filed or in progress??? This is really killing me. Who has the answer? if anyone knows, please please share!
lazycis, chanduv - anyone to comment on above new information???
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GOTGC
07-24 03:09 PM
makes no sense.....
EB3 India setp 2006 wasnt even current in Jun 2007....
Since LuckyPaji mentioned his brother came on investors visa, I'm thinking even he applied under INVESTOR CATEGORY-EB5..
Probably he is right that he got EAD, 140 and 485 receit notices etc...:) ..
Anyway he is not sure about his category..So it could be EB5 which was NEVER retrogressed..
EB3 India setp 2006 wasnt even current in Jun 2007....
Since LuckyPaji mentioned his brother came on investors visa, I'm thinking even he applied under INVESTOR CATEGORY-EB5..
Probably he is right that he got EAD, 140 and 485 receit notices etc...:) ..
Anyway he is not sure about his category..So it could be EB5 which was NEVER retrogressed..
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learning01
04-26 10:41 AM
Bkarnik:
I respect the efforts of IV and actively support them.. To kick up some dust and buzz, amongst our American collegues, TV news reporters, talking heads, professors etc., I suggested that we must write about this injustice. Taking SS Tax and Medicare tax from non -immigrants is injustice. Americans will not tolerate injustice. What we are discussing here, whether we should do something about this collectively at IV, so that our GC processes will be speeded up, as a indirect consequence. This great country should understand more the injustice is being done to us, the highly skilled immigrants
- in visa extension / stamping issues (a family has to spend 6 to 10 grand to get a visa stamping, appointments are not availabe for next 4 months etc)
- in employment (cannot take promotion, cannot easily change jobs without losing Priority Date),
- in labor clearance and
- in GC Process (visa numbers, etc)
Thanks for the links. I didn't read them as I don't have to. I had indeed done research on the visa stamping issue. I am not ignorant, but I take your words as compliment.
You must understand employment visas, like H1B are non-immigrant visas. That alone should make Uncle Sam stop collecting SS Tax and Medicare. If any trial lawyer does a class action law suit or what we call a Public Interest Litigation, the US government should be in lot trouble. Because no one is questioning, they are passing on. I was also told by a SWA high official, that there is a provision, that you can opt out of deduction of SS Tax and Medicare, if you are on H1.
I want to focus on core IV goals. I will not post any further on this SS Tax issue. But, my last word is: dual intent is dangerous and applicants will be denied visa and entry into US. So, readers be careful. You have a non-immigrant visa.
From US Embassy in Canada for visa stamping requirements:
WILL I QUALIFY FOR A VISA?
In order to qualify for most categories of U.S. non-immigrant visas, you must be able to demonstrate to a U.S. Consular Officer that you have a permanent residence outside the United States that you do not intend to abandon. You may satisfy this requirement by showing you have strong economic and social ties to your country of residence. "Ties" are factors that would require you to return to your country of residence, upon completion of your temporary visit to the United States.
LIN: US Embassay Canada. GOV (http://www.usembassycanada.gov/content/travel/halifax_OF-156.pdf)
I respect the efforts of IV and actively support them.. To kick up some dust and buzz, amongst our American collegues, TV news reporters, talking heads, professors etc., I suggested that we must write about this injustice. Taking SS Tax and Medicare tax from non -immigrants is injustice. Americans will not tolerate injustice. What we are discussing here, whether we should do something about this collectively at IV, so that our GC processes will be speeded up, as a indirect consequence. This great country should understand more the injustice is being done to us, the highly skilled immigrants
- in visa extension / stamping issues (a family has to spend 6 to 10 grand to get a visa stamping, appointments are not availabe for next 4 months etc)
- in employment (cannot take promotion, cannot easily change jobs without losing Priority Date),
- in labor clearance and
- in GC Process (visa numbers, etc)
Thanks for the links. I didn't read them as I don't have to. I had indeed done research on the visa stamping issue. I am not ignorant, but I take your words as compliment.
You must understand employment visas, like H1B are non-immigrant visas. That alone should make Uncle Sam stop collecting SS Tax and Medicare. If any trial lawyer does a class action law suit or what we call a Public Interest Litigation, the US government should be in lot trouble. Because no one is questioning, they are passing on. I was also told by a SWA high official, that there is a provision, that you can opt out of deduction of SS Tax and Medicare, if you are on H1.
I want to focus on core IV goals. I will not post any further on this SS Tax issue. But, my last word is: dual intent is dangerous and applicants will be denied visa and entry into US. So, readers be careful. You have a non-immigrant visa.
From US Embassy in Canada for visa stamping requirements:
WILL I QUALIFY FOR A VISA?
In order to qualify for most categories of U.S. non-immigrant visas, you must be able to demonstrate to a U.S. Consular Officer that you have a permanent residence outside the United States that you do not intend to abandon. You may satisfy this requirement by showing you have strong economic and social ties to your country of residence. "Ties" are factors that would require you to return to your country of residence, upon completion of your temporary visit to the United States.
LIN: US Embassay Canada. GOV (http://www.usembassycanada.gov/content/travel/halifax_OF-156.pdf)
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GCBy3000
01-03 04:22 PM
Good luck.
I wish you have PD of 2001/2002. I had the same dream when I came here 8 years ago.
If you are new to US(1-3 years, from the spark in your statements, I feel you are.) with having PD 2003 or later, only the SKIL bill or CIR could rescue you. Othewise, you will be one among 1million in 2011 talking like us.
Its very interesting reading everyone's stories. To me GC represents freedom. Freedom to work for whom you want to, in a field you want to, not to work for someone you don't want to. To start your own buisness, to do all those things which US is known for. This country encourages entrepreneurs and I would like to be one, one of these days :).
I wish you have PD of 2001/2002. I had the same dream when I came here 8 years ago.
If you are new to US(1-3 years, from the spark in your statements, I feel you are.) with having PD 2003 or later, only the SKIL bill or CIR could rescue you. Othewise, you will be one among 1million in 2011 talking like us.
Its very interesting reading everyone's stories. To me GC represents freedom. Freedom to work for whom you want to, in a field you want to, not to work for someone you don't want to. To start your own buisness, to do all those things which US is known for. This country encourages entrepreneurs and I would like to be one, one of these days :).
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H1's are eligible to receive the stimulus package..I got confirmed the same from different people and analysts...
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eb3_nepa
07-05 11:51 AM
Pl create a webfax that I can send to my Senator or congresswoman. Or create a package that we can print and mail to the senators/reps.
Pappu bhai do something regarding this.
Rax1, why do you need PAPPU to do something, why can you not call and Fax something yourself? Are you not proficient in English, are you not educated enough.
Can you not write a ONE page letter spedifying what happened on July 2nd and how it affected your life and that of your family? Can you not call your local senator and congressperson and educate them about what went down on July 2nd?
Come on people, if you want JUSTICE, get up and do something YOURSELF. All we are asking you to do is Write ONE page letters. Does The IV core have to spoon feed us EVERYTHING? If you are busy ask someone in your family to do this for you.
Pappu bhai do something regarding this.
Rax1, why do you need PAPPU to do something, why can you not call and Fax something yourself? Are you not proficient in English, are you not educated enough.
Can you not write a ONE page letter spedifying what happened on July 2nd and how it affected your life and that of your family? Can you not call your local senator and congressperson and educate them about what went down on July 2nd?
Come on people, if you want JUSTICE, get up and do something YOURSELF. All we are asking you to do is Write ONE page letters. Does The IV core have to spoon feed us EVERYTHING? If you are busy ask someone in your family to do this for you.
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07-15 06:37 PM
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GCInThisLife
07-18 03:03 PM
You mean notice date? If your application is physically reached NSC on June 15th your receipt date should be around it. It makes sense for notice date getting delayed. However, your processing would be done based on RD only.
This would suck for older priority dates.
My priority date is March, 2002!! Application was delivered to Nebraska on June 15th but the Receipt date is in mid-July.
So all those filers with priority dates after me (did not come across any with PD older than mine) that got their receipt notices before me would jump ahead in line!! Who knows how many years more...
Hopefully they will change their procedure after this fiasco to go by Priority Dates first and then the receipt dates.
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This would suck for older priority dates.
My priority date is March, 2002!! Application was delivered to Nebraska on June 15th but the Receipt date is in mid-July.
So all those filers with priority dates after me (did not come across any with PD older than mine) that got their receipt notices before me would jump ahead in line!! Who knows how many years more...
Hopefully they will change their procedure after this fiasco to go by Priority Dates first and then the receipt dates.
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rkm
07-11 08:01 AM
Very Good News for EB2-I.